tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post6860109165873876961..comments2023-10-31T08:52:03.332+00:00Comments on D'Blog of 'Israeli: Rotring Art Pens: Getting Them GoingAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02982284633069836213noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-9220121042199725252014-04-03T18:06:12.461+01:002014-04-03T18:06:12.461+01:00Hello everyone. I have unearthed some 27 year old ...Hello everyone. I have unearthed some 27 year old Staedtler rapidographs. I ran them under a very hot tap for a while, I even disassembled them and soaked them overnight in hot water, but I can't get them working again.<br /><br />Any suggestions?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00469740024957804365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-51823848447407290632012-11-18T22:57:17.394+00:002012-11-18T22:57:17.394+00:00Lot's of good info here. Just picked up a bag ...Lot's of good info here. Just picked up a bag of 8 Rotrings for 2 Euros at a flea market yesterday. Used to use Rotring around 20 years ago and have just recently got back into cartoonistry so I'll be sure to give the Rotrings a go. For stubbornly dried ink, is there a home-made mix that you can soak them in, just in case regular water doesn't cut it?Robgpricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15669923951417371868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-20659008242922040172012-04-06T23:42:04.383+01:002012-04-06T23:42:04.383+01:00You can use Indian ink with these pens - I have be...You can use Indian ink with these pens - I have been doing so out of ignorance, you just need to follow all the steps above and also have a wet rag to wipe pen on occasionally. I refill the old ink cartridges with indian ink using a syringe.richdraws@hotmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09920216746424689397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-41239110555088604272012-03-15T14:03:55.970+00:002012-03-15T14:03:55.970+00:00Gitz: drying is certainly a common problem with Ar...Gitz: drying is certainly a common problem with Artpens, but the flooding's not something I've ever encountered. If you're using a reservoir to fill the pen from bottled ink, a bad seal on that might cause flooding... otherwise your pen's either worn out or just a bad 'un.<br /><br />If you want alternatives... Lamy Safari fountain pens seem pretty good, and apparently available in nib sizes F, M and B (though I've never seen this variety in shops, only online). I've not had clogging problems with the Safaris, though I've only ever used them with Lamy cartridges in red (my girlfriend has several loaded with a variety of other colours, which also perform well), so I couldn't tell you how black their black ink really is, or how waterproof, it that's an issue.<br /><br />Aside from Fountain pens, Faber-Castell Pitt pens are lovely to use and contain truly waterproof pigmented ink (but they're fibre-tips, and disposable). There are three sizes of standard-type fibre tips - S F and M, plus a B size that's a kind of brush pen.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02982284633069836213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-681205299093516102012-02-27T14:30:59.608+00:002012-02-27T14:30:59.608+00:00Wow, is noone else having problems with their pens...Wow, is noone else having problems with their pens?! I cannot trust mine to draw consistent lines as suddenly I'll get a deluge of ink and at times it fires blank for the first part of a first stroke. Anyone else having problems with their Rotring art pen? Any suggestions for more reliable art ink pens?<br /><br />GGitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07798204379760826680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-62310335055900583822012-02-18T01:58:46.652+00:002012-02-18T01:58:46.652+00:00Awesome. I had the same problem with my Art Pen.
I...Awesome. I had the same problem with my Art Pen.<br />I don't use it in a regular base, so when I try to draw, the ink doesn't flow.<br />With this method, it starts to work rapidly XDAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05580083737385549507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-71425000021439563592012-01-25T22:22:12.976+00:002012-01-25T22:22:12.976+00:00(FOR REFERENCE THE FOLLOWING REPLY IS ABOUT ROTRIN...(FOR REFERENCE THE FOLLOWING REPLY IS ABOUT ROTRING TECHNICAL PENS AND INK, NOT ARTPENS AND ARTPEN INK)<br /><br />Collette - I remember using Rotring pen cleaner fluid years ago (I eventually stopped needing it because I swapped over to using the no-longer made Higgins technical pen ink which didn't clog my pens as much).<br /><br />You don't dilute the fluid at all, just use it as is - pour it into a small container and soak the nib (it helps to remove the plastic collar from the nib and thoroughly wipe off the spiral)<br /><br />For less badly clogged pens, you can load the cleaner into a reservoir and run it through the pen by shaking, just as you would to get the ink going.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02982284633069836213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-15619933100198977842012-01-25T11:31:31.378+00:002012-01-25T11:31:31.378+00:00I've had a Rotring rapidograph 0,18mm for year...I've had a Rotring rapidograph 0,18mm for years and I love it when it works. I don't use it often enough and every time I come back to it I have to unclog it. The cartridges get cloggy too so I end up having to dismantle the whole thing, throw away the cartridge and soak the pen clean. It can take ages. During use I often have to dip the tip in water and shake it several times to get it going again. I've just discovered a cleaning fluid produced by Rotring but there are no directions or instructions for use on the box, in the leaflet or on the bottle. I have got my pen soaking in it now. Does anyone know is it supposed to be diluted or used like a washing up liquid or will it just soak the thing clean on its own? I've read through some of past posts on this site and there is little reference to using it. I have managed with water only for years and thought this would be quicker! it cost me £7 so I hope its worth it!<br />I still love the pen though. Nothing else gives me so fine a line.Collettenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-8543396732362664852012-01-20T22:34:51.361+00:002012-01-20T22:34:51.361+00:00Mine is a metal barrel bluish purple. I bought th...Mine is a metal barrel bluish purple. I bought the bottled ink recommended by the seller. They me that because it is a stainless steel tip it would be slower to get started.<br />That has been some time ago and it still hasn't started. <br />I am frustrated. I love fountain pens (mine is not an artpen) and it is driving me crazy that I have been unable to use it!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-25885622645006503202010-11-15T07:25:49.974+00:002010-11-15T07:25:49.974+00:00The Rotring Art Pen is a classic pen with a modern...The Rotring Art Pen is a classic pen with a modern design and the insipid writing action of a fine fountain pen. I think that Rotring Sketch Pen has a tapered stainless steel nib, pointed nib is mostly used for sketching and drawing and uses international cartridges or optional convertor.printed penshttp://www.hotline.co.uk/promotional-gifts/department/23-promotional-pens.htmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-14128137443051378092010-10-14T17:29:37.878+01:002010-10-14T17:29:37.878+01:00Been using the art pens for about 20 years — picke...Been using the art pens for about 20 years — picked up my first set in Germany and got a second set when i returned to the states. Love them! Tried other pens and none of them give that clean crisp line that my EF does. Running under hot water has always done the job for me, although I've used the bottle-cap quickie method out in the field with good results. I use rotring black cartridges mostly and get the best results. I buy about 20 packs at a time when I can find them. I'm not as happy with the results with a converter. Finding the right ink for them is a problemQuinnhttp://www.cheesecartoon.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-19225642296253427432010-09-01T17:56:42.779+01:002010-09-01T17:56:42.779+01:00Marialette - when you say Rotring pens you don'...Marialette - when you say Rotring pens you don't say if you mean Rotring Art Pens (that look like fountain pens, with a pointed nib) or Rotring technical pens (Isograph/Rapidograph) with cylindrical nibs.<br /><br />The fountain-pen style Art Pens won't take true waterproof ink, so I'd not recommend them; Isograph or Rapidograph pens will take special waterproof technical pen ink, but the fine nibs would probably clog very easily with shell dust.<br /><br />If you're used to using fine brushes, why not just use waterproof ink with those? As long as you rinse the brushes thoroughly and wash the hairs with soap at the end of each working session, waterproof ink won't damage them. I used to draw with brushes and waterproof ink all the time.<br /><br />If you need a fine, steady line, try a Faber-Castell PITT pen; they're a type of fibre-tip loaded with waterproof permanent ink. The fibre tip nib shouldn't clog like a technical pen. The only real drawback is, you can't reload them. They make three sizes of nib, equivalent to about 0.3mm, 0.5mm and the widest is a sort of brush tip.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02982284633069836213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-85615381590388664092010-09-01T14:03:10.585+01:002010-09-01T14:03:10.585+01:00I want to use my Rotring for drawing on egg shells...I want to use my Rotring for drawing on egg shells. (I copy Dulac, Rackham etc onto them). So far I used very fine brushes for outlining, but now want to try waterproof ink. Will a Rotring pen cope with the unavoidable ultra-fine dust from the eggshell or will it clog up the nib? Any advice welcome.Marialettenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-45723630801368445982010-07-27T22:46:14.948+01:002010-07-27T22:46:14.948+01:00I am looking for replacement cartridges for my set...I am looking for replacement cartridges for my set of Rotring Primus No. II, III, and IV, 1970s vintage. Not easy to find with Isographs and Radiographs having taken over!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-56003882219793872802010-07-04T18:13:30.334+01:002010-07-04T18:13:30.334+01:00anjana - Back in the day I used to use a special s...anjana - Back in the day I used to use a special solution from Rotring. Soaking the disassembled nibs overnight. I think that soaking them in some kind of ordinary cleaning fluid should do the trick.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00469740024957804365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-84442309266963464662010-06-30T14:26:17.627+01:002010-06-30T14:26:17.627+01:00thanks for the info,i just finished cleaning my is...thanks for the info,i just finished cleaning my isograph pens and they're still refusing to work,i just ran then under water etc etc,removed the nibs clened them out well(you can see how the nib can be removed if you google -how to clean isograph/technical pens)they still dont appear to work,im not sure if dipping them in water will dilute the ink further and delay them from working anytime soon.I have also been tapping them gently with their caps on for a while.and keeping them upright-no luck as yet.Any advice on how much longer it my take?brightblueseahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15996674700657430773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-65907910186395434102010-05-16T17:34:46.471+01:002010-05-16T17:34:46.471+01:00Don't know how long ago these postings were pu...Don't know how long ago these postings were put here but in case the thread is still alive .....<br />I've spent practically the whole weekend washing my set of isograph pens that have been languishing unused but not forgotten for at least ten years. I've soaked then, I've run them under a running tap, blown through them, filled a cartridge with water and shaken them to the point of developing a repetitive stress injury, and still some of them are clogged. Finding this blog is a god send! A joy to discover that I was not the only pen nerd labouring with love to bring my trusty old tools back to life. Does anyone know if the nibs on isographs are removable? Looks to me like they are not but....<br />Also, now that I have at least got some of them clean, what ink would you recommend using in them? I was interested to read Mark say that rotring ink deteroriated. I still have a little unopened plastic bottle of the stuff from back in the day (10 years ago perhaps) that I was thinking of using. What does anyone think? It sounds and looks fresh and liquidy but....<br />All advice most welcome. Anything to keep me company during my long hours at the slowly running tap! <br />Thanks <br />JanUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07781173533603063140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-89234279718418854062010-03-18T00:30:37.836+00:002010-03-18T00:30:37.836+00:00I have been using Artpens for 15 years and my clea...I have been using Artpens for 15 years and my cleaning time has been cut way down by using Noodler's ink. I wish I had known about Noodler's in years ago, it is superb in these pens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-48195610183322606002009-12-10T17:13:19.360+00:002009-12-10T17:13:19.360+00:00Claudio -
1) DON'T USE INDIAN INKI! The &quo...Claudio - <br /><br />1) DON'T USE INDIAN INKI! The "permanent" ink I talk about is Rotring's own Artpen ink, which is sold in cartridges and is a BIT more black, waterproof and permanent than the ordinary fountain pen black ink you find in standard cartridges. Artpen ink is NOT completely waterproof like Indian Ink which is GUARANTEED to horribly clog your pens! Don't do it! <br /><br />(Note: ordinary black cartridge ink also works fine in Artpens, but THOROUGHLY wash the pen out before swapping between ink types as two different inks will react inside the pen and clog the mechanism horribly if you don't. I have buggered up Artpens that way in the past.) <br /><br />Rotring did also make an Artpen ink that was sold in bottles and which could be loaded into the pens using a reservoir adaptor. I always found it clogged my pens, and I don't even know if it's made any more.<br /><br />2) I use nibs EF, F, M and B and all of them give distinctly different lines - if you're getting the same sort of line from an EF and an F it may be a sign that the F is a bit clogged and so writing a bit thin (I'm currently having the same issue with my M and B nibs because I haven't used or cleaned them for a bit).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02982284633069836213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-69675017112140875092009-11-21T18:32:57.211+00:002009-11-21T18:32:57.211+00:00Hi! Your comments are very interesting, and they m...Hi! Your comments are very interesting, and they made me decide to buy two Artpens. However, as you are more experienced than me I would like to ask two questions:<br />1) I tried to refill the cartridges with indian ink, but it seems too "thick" as the ink doesn't flow nicely. So what type of ink do you recommend to refill them?<br />2) I bought an ExtraFine and a Fine, but the thick doesn't seem too different; in fact, they are quite similar. Is that normal?<br />Besides, I loved the pens, although I continue using disposable Pigma pens, as the line is thinner.<br />Thank you, guys, for the answer.<br />Claudio, Sherbrooke (Canada)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-5286037444148484092009-11-08T18:26:17.457+00:002009-11-08T18:26:17.457+00:00I've got 3 artpens and a pencil that I've ...I've got 3 artpens and a pencil that I've had for over a decade now. I too had great trouble trying to clean the pens up after a long absence. Then I accidentally found out that the nib comes off as another poster mentioned, I was horrified, thought I'd truly busted it!<br />They are my favorite pens and I use them daily, the pencil too.<br />It seems that most people are not familiar with them as I get comments on them fairly often.<br /><br />oh, I have 2 EF, a F, and the pencil. I'm looking for another pencil currently.rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03534440165021114414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-17482000060535002822009-09-17T15:52:58.726+01:002009-09-17T15:52:58.726+01:00Thanks, Matt (& others) for the pen tips. I...Thanks, Matt (& others) for the pen tips. I'm an illustrator and I've been using a Pelikan 120 fountain pen for years--with waterproof India ink--and that model has served me well. Ever since FW changed their ink formula, though, I've had problems with clogging and ink flow. I may try a Rotring, but I'm not sure it'll work well with India ink. <br />-E.H. SmithElwood H. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11713383976809750412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-297902909050658882009-08-06T09:38:30.351+01:002009-08-06T09:38:30.351+01:00Nice tip by the way.Nice tip by the way.r1chardhttp://rotringaddict.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-52963668750583905842009-07-07T14:53:10.537+01:002009-07-07T14:53:10.537+01:00I feel old.
I haven't used my ArtPens in at l...I feel old.<br /><br />I haven't used my ArtPens in at least a decade. No doubt I'm now going home, ditching the mac and spending the rest of the night trying to find them in the repository of old drawing stuff (aka - the cupboard in the garage. Actually, I know exactly where they are, I gaze at them wistfully from time to time, thinking how hard it would be to resurrect them.<br /><br />Now I have renewed hope. Thanks for a fantastic little piece. Both useful and nostalgic.<br /><br />Now, as the curve ball - anyone else got them in grey, peach and pale blue - as well as the basic black?<br /><br />(Oh and I had the ArtPencil too - long since gone...)SkuaSeptemberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00947208855680795355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29485212.post-69794641228120774102009-06-24T07:46:45.929+01:002009-06-24T07:46:45.929+01:00Another wonderful piece of info, for those who are...Another wonderful piece of info, for those who are accustumed to use Art Pens for their drawing.<br /><br />Remember those good old days, when I had the same trouble with jammed up pens, luckily, my dad did give the similar idea to clean the stuffs.<br /><br />With the advent on ball pens and refills, and more importantly digital artwork with lightpens, those days are gone and forgotten completely.<br /><br />Thanks for bringing back those old memories D.<br /><br /><b><a href="http://www.comicology.in/" rel="nofollow">ÇómícólógÝ</a></b>Rafiq Rajahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04589402571072945860noreply@blogger.com